and Bumblebees do fly
{This is in response to one of the comments on the Remote Viewing Visuals thread.}
A team of people assembled for viewing inclusive of Project manager, tasker, viewer, monitor, analyst(s), reporter(s), and client(s) - would be an exceptional rarity, even in the intelligence or scientific world. Of course that would be the ideal.
I’m taking the time to respond to this, because I know why you’ve asked the question. It’s an appropriate and important one, although most out there should have figured it out for themselves already. By the way, your DSL won’t last very long once the pathogens have take over, because the weak link is in the first main-line generator mechanic at a critical power switching station along the American-Canadian border.
Guess what - once I get my blind tasking, I work alone as well, 95 to 99% of the time. I might do a few weeks of lab work every now and then, but when it’s stacked up against everything else I do, it appears a weak glow worm against the room full of candles, so I don’t want to hear any bitching from the gallery about going it alone.
I said what I said originally because I was asked specifically about the viewing and what one might “visualize,” so my intention was to respond to that - not critique the multitude of reasons why someone’s remote viewing might lack in some qualitative or quantitative way, of which this just happens to be a major one.
You are absolutely right - there is no one you can hand it to that might figure it all out for you. And if there was - guess what - they would have had to spend years with you and have more than a passing understanding for psychology and physics, and then have spent hundreds of hours in a closed room with you for days on end aside from the remote viewing in order to give you the kind of help you are expecting from a professional support team. Or, in a preferable case, be two or three additional people, spending more than a few years with you doing the same thing. I guess I am lucky in this accord, since when I do work in a lab, the psychologist has known me for just over 25 years and the physicist has known me for closer to 30. So, they do know when I make a certain kind of scribble and call it a dog can, it’s more than likely noodles casserole with tuna fish and peas.
But, when I’m on my own, which is usually 95-99% of the time, I have to figure that out for myself, and that usually means when I’m being televised in front of millions of people, demonstrating for magazine or newspaper writers (always free), working for law enforcement or looking for missing people which is 60% of my pro-bono work, or just winging it for my meager income. Of course there is no pressure there (please laugh along with me here, as this is supposed to be humorous.)
Seriously, this unfortunately is the dog-assed difficult part of remote viewing which is the part that is totally un-teachable, but which everyone says they can teach and is a piece of cake. Heck, you should be able to just pick this up in a couple of days, a week at most - from almost any course out there, or at least that what most say. It’s all over the Internet. Here are some facts (straight from the laboratory - I don’t make this up):
1. Most remote viewers cannot analyze their own remote viewing. Not because they can’t, because they spent no time learning how, and never plan to.
2. “Almost without exception,” no remote viewer has been able to demonstrate an ability to state when they are right or wrong under controls within the lab. There are two exceptions to this statement who have been able to demonstrate this ability within our lab, but only under great difficulty.
3. Since every human mind is different, there are probably few commonalities between the meanings of images shared among remote viewers when viewing the same target beyond the very rudimentary state. In other words, the more complex the reporting the less likely viewers reporting images will agree.
4. If you really want to understand what you remote view, you have to learn to understand how your own mind works. That takes years of hard work. Notice I said years - not months, or weeks, or days.
5. Once you come to consciously understand what a subconscious mental image actually means or represents in reality, your conscious mind will steal it and use it for just about anything, rendering it useless. This means the language of your subconscious that you struggle so desperately to learn is a “dynamic” language that constantly changes. It is a language that is vibrant, vigorous and active. It doesn’t wait for you to catch up. So, to be an effective and expert remote viewer, you must pursue it constantly and relentlessly, as hard today as the day you started.
I’m repeating myself here - since my books have always said it. It’s about using feedback to try and understand one’s own mind and how it works. How and why the personal mind uses the symbols it uses. Why does it speak to itself the way it does? Why does it go around the block the way it does to deliver itself the messages? Why does it refuse to address certain issues? Why does it have no problem with certain things and so much difficulty with others? When one digs out the reasons for these problems and issues, and then solves them; when one figures out how their own mind works, and understands how their mind operates and why, they will be closer to mastering RV.
Mastering RV isn’t about seeing some distant place and being right. It’s about cleaning out one’s own head, opening to what one needs to hear or see and providing a clear place for visual and input images or input to reside long enough to understand. It’s a form of personal self discipline. It’s a martial art of the mind. It starts and ends inside one’s head, it’s really not about RV at all.
If one can’t discipline what’s inside themselves, then how can they control, manipulate, and understand what they are trying to perceive about something half an Earth away, or from the back side of the Moon?
I would add one last comment. I’ve never encouraged zillions of people to become remote viewers. What I have always said is that everyone who has ever walked into our lab and been tested has shown the capacity for being psychic; albeit most were not very good. All human beings are psychic - it is part of our nature to be so. It’s the very reason I do not teach RV. Why should I teach what everyone already knows? I would be taking money under false pretenses.
I have also stated that approximately one in two hundred have shown a propensity for being world class viewers under protocol. This we know from formal testing. The only way of knowing if you’re one of the one in two hundred is to try and remote view. If one tries and does extremely well in a natural way, then one has gotten a hit off of home plate and has started a journey that now requires learning mental self-discipline. I’ve strongly recommended against paying money to anyone for training, since all remote viewing is, is a formal protocol that can be learned in fifteen minutes from a book. Since every human being appears to be psychic anyway, all one needs is the protocol in order to be a remote viewer.
Learning mental self-discipline is like losing weight, it is usually a long and lonely journey. It’s fun to do with a group, but it usually comes down to what one does themselves that matters, not what the group does for the person. The group is good for moral support, but little else. One will learn to discipline their self and come to understand how their own mind ticks, or they will fail. No one can take a stick and beat that into them. There simply is no “wax on, wax off” method for doing this.
I’ve also said more than frequently, if remote viewing isn’t fun, then one shouldn’t be doing it. Mastering oneself should be both a challenge as well as healthy and fun. The added benefit, even if one becomes a reasonably average remote viewer, are the side benefits of mental discipline one will have learned, such as; being able to control pain, controlling the flow of blood to different parts of your body, controlling your body weight, controlling anger, angst, and emotions, improving the strength of the mind, bringing calm to one’s inner and outer world, and best of all, being able to provide a better example to others.
Like watching Bumblebees fly, there’s more to RV than just describing the other side of the moon.
September 6th, 2006 at 8:59 am
Your frankness and your insight is refreshing, Joe.
It’s appreciated more than you could know.
September 6th, 2006 at 9:21 am
Thank you, Joe. Every “wanna-be” should read this post. Whatever it is that is on the back side of that Moon must be a shocker, but it is certainly worth whatever effort it might take to find out. I am not being facetious here, either.
Just a note from a mighty humble bumblebee.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
If you blog nothing else for the rest of the year, this little entry would be enough.
September 6th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
joe as always interesting comments.
not sure I agree as i believe training in a method does help some people even natural psychics and like everything else they may have to pay for this - but as always insightful.
daz
September 6th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
Thanx for answering my/our questions! This is cool to have your stuff up here were everyone can see it easily.
-E
September 6th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Thanks for the post Joe — insightful as usual. Sometimes when I go to a site I react to it as if I was really there. For example if the target was a chained lion my session would describe the chain holding the lion and have no indication of the lion. lol But I suppose it would be different for everyone.
Anyway get well and stay well.
Regards,
Bill Z
September 6th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
Well I don’t feel so bad now for not being able to shell out serious dollars for somebodys’ course. Thanks.
September 7th, 2006 at 12:43 am
Hi Joe,
someone once said, “Know yourself and you will know the whole universe”.
I guess that applies very well to the art of RV.
Thanks for your advice. It’s much appreciated.
cheers
Liz
September 7th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
Joe,
Thanks so much for posting your thoughts with passion. Also, for reminding us that our mind, body, spirit have a unique way of communicating and interacting with that which is all.
Take care- Paula
September 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
cool stuff to think and feel about!
September 12th, 2006 at 4:31 am
Got a question. What if you find out some useful information that might be useful to someone in power…do you bother teliing them about it? Will they believe you? Will they suspect you?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Thanks for writing about this subject, Joe. It’s an area in which I find it difficult to put my experiences into words. I can only say RVing is “like” something else. Like zen, the experience itself seems to be beyond language.
I agree about not wanting to hear people bitch about having to RV alone. While RVing alone (particularly LEARNING to RV alone) might be a complicating difficulty - that’s all it is. If you really want to RV, you’ll find a way, alone or otherwise. It’s like people who say they want to lift weights and get in shape but bitch about not having a set of dumbells and barbells. As if they don’t know about push-ups, crunches, pull-ups, and running. Or as if they will never be able to afford any gym euqipment or make some themselves. Like anything, if the desire and the determination is a strong, a way can almost always be found.
In the blog which this one refers to -”Remote Viewing Visuals”, you seem to be saying that visuals are almost never literal representations of the target. I agree that most visuals are metaphorical or symbolic and thus need to be understood as descriptions of the target in some way - not as direct representations of the target. In those cases, visuals are types of symbolic imagery.
But I get target-representative visuals. At least, that’s how I think of them.
I experience - and have always experienced - a type of visual that, while not being a total representation of the target; are without doubt direct representations of ASPECTS or PARTS of the target. For example, a picture target of a small cabin with a mostly metal wagon wheel leaning against the front wall next to the door resulted in my “seeing” a very brief and fleeting glimpse of a WOODEN wagon wheel. My visual was - as usual - only similar to the wheel in the target picture. Something else, maybe a kinesthetic sense, gave me the impression this wagon wheel was leaning to one side. Yet a different sense gave me the impression of a large, flat, vertical space or mass next to me (which also meant, at the time, next to the wagon wheel). The wall was sensed almost as an oppressive shadow.
From the above (and the rest of the session), I was able to correctly sketch a picture of of a small cabin with a wagon wheel leaning against an outer wall. Unfortunately, I incorrectly placed the wheel as leaning against a side wall - not the front wall by the door.
Now, I definately “saw” that wheel in my mind. My mental concept of the wheel was completely wooden, however; and was missing the red, metal parts. I correctly perceived a log fence also in a very similar manner. However, neither of these elements - the wheel and fence - came through as single, distinct image. In both cases (as in all my RV and PSI experience), the parts of perceptions I’m callling “visuals” were more like memories.
Memories. If I close my eyes right now and try to remember my great-grandfather’s face, I don’t get a static, clear image. Instead, I get a collage of shifting images and snippets of thoughts and feelings that are associated with him. I see a fleeting image of his black, plastic-rimmed eyeglasses with the line across the lenses because he needed one prescription for far seeing and one for near. I catch a similarly fleeting glimpse of his smile, conjured up from watching his response to something I did as a child that he got a kick out of. I see his old, bony, and liver-spotted hands petting a new-born calf’s head and I simultaneously recall how paper-thin and soft the old man’s skin had become. I very briefly have an image of the whiskers on his chin as steam is blowing out with his breath, seen up close - a memory drawn from when I used to ride on his knee when we’d take the tractor across a pasture to cut holes in the ice on the pond so the cattle could drink.
This all happens in a matter of seconds. None of the images stays put. They merge, one into another, in no particular order. I see his eyes, his nose, his ears, his smile, his chin. But I never see his entire face in one clear, stationary image.
For me, this is how the most literal images and visuals are when I remote view. The thoughts, concepts, sense of emotions, and vague “feelings” that come with them tell me much more than the swirling visuals themselves do. After about 8 years of remote viewing almost daily, I’ve long since given up the idea that I can hope for my mind to show me movies and snapshots of the target.
September 17th, 2006 at 7:56 am
Question for Joe
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Hi Joe, I was enthralled and grateful for all your input at the recent GV at the Monroe Institute a month ago. It was such a pleasure to listen to you.
Would you be kind enought to answer a question for me, please? Was the recent failed Yemen attack on oil facilities the event that you RV’d and referred to?
Many thanks
Karon
October 2nd, 2006 at 5:21 am
It`s funny so many people are interested in RV whatabout NV? What`s NV you ask? No not Nevada…It`s a little sumthin I call Near Viewing.
Taking a really close, impartial, detatched,loving,affirmative view/perspective of ourselves.
I am really good at NV! not so much at RV!
lost my wallet a month ago or so and still nothing,
However while NVing daily I see the center of exsistence and experience what buddha pointed to, Jesus taught about..osho knew and let me tell you WOWEE!!!
Ever since… PSI experiences and abilities every day, all day long….off the richter
My favorite is the pre cognition
I`m like 10 to 15 minutes ahead of everyone ,accuracy 99-100%
I can lip sync half the assinine shit people are going to say to me before they open theyre mouths… I have started just to provide answers before they even utter the freakin questions..easier for me
Starting to see The Virgin Mary/Blessed Mother Whatever Shakti I`m not sure
But she`s followin me I swear it
Always whispering in my ear
Sumthin about being a lion and soon I will roar?
Life is a trip
But I am gettin full on
Amazing
Miraculous
I may be the greatest teacher ever
Least that`s what she keeps tellin me
I mean WTF?
I work for Papa Johns
Delivery Man
It`s Cool
Feeding the masses is what I do
March 25th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
noted. thanks.