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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kayos</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>kayos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, for some reason, I feel awake and alert after a long while of being asleep.  My past has been a mish mush of happenings that are somehow unimportant except in the fact that they have led me to today.  These instances of awakeness happen at different times in my life.

My earlier life is remembered as me being “different” from almost everyone around me.  It was like I was on the outside looking into a strange world that I didn’t understand.  I now realize that was partially the case but mostly it was those around me who were on the outside.  I was able to see and understand our world in a manner they were not.   This is still true today, though over time I have been able to identify others with similar understandings as myself.

Today I was reading Joe McGoneagle’s blog (hmmm, I typed the name “Tom” instead of “Joe”, wonder what that means?) in which he describes the “ah ha!” of RVing.  It was instantly recognizable as experiences I had in my late teens through twenties with precognitive dreams:  more real than reality, kind of like extremely vivid molten plastic with intrinsic understanding attached.  I have had other dreams which were definitely not precognitive but which did contain “information” important to my life.  These were largely in the form of emotional symbolism and had to be deciphered for the emotional content.  There is a place midway between awake and asleep where these decipherings or realizations seem to occur and it is with a similar “ah ha!”.

These dreams were easily distinguishable from others and I would awake from each of them a different person.  It is hard to explain what the difference is, but as I think about it, it is like I had a view of something outside of reality that was more real than reality itself.  I would have an understanding of sorts.  I can describe it as not understanding a math concept that you’ve worked very hard on then suddenly “getting it” and this “getting it” allows you to have a whole new understanding.

I have had the opportunity to be aware of others which I can identify with similar perceptions.  Tom Beardon is one.  In reading his web site over the years I find that, though Tom is grossly more intelligent, in many ways we share a similar perspective of life.  There is a connection that perhaps can be explained by our similar view of looking at the world through the practice of Aikido.   Of course, we were probably drawn to Aikido rather than other martial arts because of who we innately are.

There are many others, less well known but still visible for who they are.  They stand out just like jocks or geeks or gang bangers can stand out.  They stand out by a certain knowing or awareness in their eyes.  I’ll describe it as a peacefulness, though they are not necessarily at peace with themselves or the world around them.

I find myself awake and wanting to see more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, for some reason, I feel awake and alert after a long while of being asleep.  My past has been a mish mush of happenings that are somehow unimportant except in the fact that they have led me to today.  These instances of awakeness happen at different times in my life.</p>
<p>My earlier life is remembered as me being “different” from almost everyone around me.  It was like I was on the outside looking into a strange world that I didn’t understand.  I now realize that was partially the case but mostly it was those around me who were on the outside.  I was able to see and understand our world in a manner they were not.   This is still true today, though over time I have been able to identify others with similar understandings as myself.</p>
<p>Today I was reading Joe McGoneagle’s blog (hmmm, I typed the name “Tom” instead of “Joe”, wonder what that means?) in which he describes the “ah ha!” of RVing.  It was instantly recognizable as experiences I had in my late teens through twenties with precognitive dreams:  more real than reality, kind of like extremely vivid molten plastic with intrinsic understanding attached.  I have had other dreams which were definitely not precognitive but which did contain “information” important to my life.  These were largely in the form of emotional symbolism and had to be deciphered for the emotional content.  There is a place midway between awake and asleep where these decipherings or realizations seem to occur and it is with a similar “ah ha!”.</p>
<p>These dreams were easily distinguishable from others and I would awake from each of them a different person.  It is hard to explain what the difference is, but as I think about it, it is like I had a view of something outside of reality that was more real than reality itself.  I would have an understanding of sorts.  I can describe it as not understanding a math concept that you’ve worked very hard on then suddenly “getting it” and this “getting it” allows you to have a whole new understanding.</p>
<p>I have had the opportunity to be aware of others which I can identify with similar perceptions.  Tom Beardon is one.  In reading his web site over the years I find that, though Tom is grossly more intelligent, in many ways we share a similar perspective of life.  There is a connection that perhaps can be explained by our similar view of looking at the world through the practice of Aikido.   Of course, we were probably drawn to Aikido rather than other martial arts because of who we innately are.</p>
<p>There are many others, less well known but still visible for who they are.  They stand out just like jocks or geeks or gang bangers can stand out.  They stand out by a certain knowing or awareness in their eyes.  I’ll describe it as a peacefulness, though they are not necessarily at peace with themselves or the world around them.</p>
<p>I find myself awake and wanting to see more.</p>
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		<title>By: Greywolf</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Greywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

that is pretty much what I heard most people say about remote viewing. If it is a clear image with a lot of detail, you should disregard it as a product of your concious mind trying to interpret the target. 

So my question, how do you sketch anything in detail at all? I mean, I&#039;m one of those people who sketch/draw by first visualizing what I&#039;m going to draw in my mind&#039;s eye, and then attempt to reproduce it on paper. I know others just let the drawing come to existance almost on it&#039;s own, without first visualizing it. 

For those of us who use the former, how do you suggest we tackle sketching in RV if we are to consider any highly detailed mental image as not being accurate target data?

I know you produce exceptional drawings, how do you do this without trusting mental images? 

Thanx

Greywolf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>that is pretty much what I heard most people say about remote viewing. If it is a clear image with a lot of detail, you should disregard it as a product of your concious mind trying to interpret the target. </p>
<p>So my question, how do you sketch anything in detail at all? I mean, I&#8217;m one of those people who sketch/draw by first visualizing what I&#8217;m going to draw in my mind&#8217;s eye, and then attempt to reproduce it on paper. I know others just let the drawing come to existance almost on it&#8217;s own, without first visualizing it. </p>
<p>For those of us who use the former, how do you suggest we tackle sketching in RV if we are to consider any highly detailed mental image as not being accurate target data?</p>
<p>I know you produce exceptional drawings, how do you do this without trusting mental images? </p>
<p>Thanx</p>
<p>Greywolf</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe,

 I&#039;m very visual and usually see the target as it is, but  get symbolic or metaphorical data as well. 
I ofen get people telling me to break  data down into it&#039;s most basic form but I find that quite often doing that only makes things worse if what I&#039;m seeing is a metaphor. 
For example your boat scenario. If you broke that down and described the texture of the boat, the colours, the smells etc, all you would achieve is to have totally missed the point that the scene was a metaphor for a relationship. 
It&#039;s not always easy to know what&#039;s the real thing and what&#039;s metaphorical. So if the boat was the real target it certainly should be desribed in great detail yet if it&#039;s a metaphor that info is ruined by breaking it down.
So how do you personally decide what&#039;s the best way to describe what you&#039;re seeing?

cheers
Liz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p> I&#8217;m very visual and usually see the target as it is, but  get symbolic or metaphorical data as well.<br />
I ofen get people telling me to break  data down into it&#8217;s most basic form but I find that quite often doing that only makes things worse if what I&#8217;m seeing is a metaphor.<br />
For example your boat scenario. If you broke that down and described the texture of the boat, the colours, the smells etc, all you would achieve is to have totally missed the point that the scene was a metaphor for a relationship.<br />
It&#8217;s not always easy to know what&#8217;s the real thing and what&#8217;s metaphorical. So if the boat was the real target it certainly should be desribed in great detail yet if it&#8217;s a metaphor that info is ruined by breaking it down.<br />
So how do you personally decide what&#8217;s the best way to describe what you&#8217;re seeing?</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Liz</p>
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		<title>By: SkyeT</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>SkyeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, the $64,000 question is:  If we can sometimes spontaneously experience true bilocation, can we deliberately bring those about?  What is really happening and how is it different from regular remote viewing?  Is it just a difference on a continuum?  Or a different animal altogether?  The proper wiring seems to be there...

I agree with everything Joe said.  But I&#039;m haunted by the morning I couldn&#039;t find the one pair of socks that went with my outfit.  I&#039;d worn them an hour or two the night before, still clean enough for the next day and I turned my entire place upside down.  Finally in total frustration (and a little humor), I raised my arms to heaven and yelled, &quot;Where are my GD socks?&quot;  

Instantly I found myself standing in the living room looking at a paper bag sitting on a stack of papers and magazines.  Vivid as can be, just like I was really standing there only maybe a little more black and white and grainy.

I popped back to my body, walked it into the living room, picked up the paperbag and there were my socks.  Voila!

Why can&#039;t I do that when I remote view?  Tell me that!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, the $64,000 question is:  If we can sometimes spontaneously experience true bilocation, can we deliberately bring those about?  What is really happening and how is it different from regular remote viewing?  Is it just a difference on a continuum?  Or a different animal altogether?  The proper wiring seems to be there&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with everything Joe said.  But I&#8217;m haunted by the morning I couldn&#8217;t find the one pair of socks that went with my outfit.  I&#8217;d worn them an hour or two the night before, still clean enough for the next day and I turned my entire place upside down.  Finally in total frustration (and a little humor), I raised my arms to heaven and yelled, &#8220;Where are my GD socks?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Instantly I found myself standing in the living room looking at a paper bag sitting on a stack of papers and magazines.  Vivid as can be, just like I was really standing there only maybe a little more black and white and grainy.</p>
<p>I popped back to my body, walked it into the living room, picked up the paperbag and there were my socks.  Voila!</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t I do that when I remote view?  Tell me that!  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: crud</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>crud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For myself I have had what might be described as full sensory remote viewing. It was more than just seeing and feeling everything. I had become this person and seemed to have full control for a short amount of time. But what I didn&#039;t have was their memory. I would have to literally look at their  wallet to find out who they were and ask others around me or look for a calendar or mail. If I pulled back a little I could just observe what they were saying or thinking.  I am assuming that events such as the recent death of  Steve Irwin could actually be stopped and avoided and yet it is as if it was fated to happen intentually. (Because this project he was working on for his daughter &amp; his love for her and animals he was even less cautious. )It&#039;s as if it was a program that couldn&#039;t be altered. Am I wrong in assuming that our government had originally wanted to control people by remote viewing? To change history and manipulate world events and their enemies? So many things that I had seen seemed to be more of alternate realities or disinformation. I understand that our imaginations can give us false realities especially if during sleep? (remote viewing during sleep)I am also under the impression that in the early 70&#039;s children were being taught to be remote viewers also. One of which was very successful and was a female. I would also like to mention my visits with Paul Smith at my house during those years as if there was some sort of competition going on. I have not read your books or many of your blogs. The movie Suspect Zero had jogged many memories for me as if I had been sleeping all of these years. The word &quot;Familiar&quot; seems to apply to many situations here.  Is the Beast that was and is not and yet is a &quot;Shape Shifter?&quot; Or is this a Watcher/Remote Viewer? The Symbol on the Iranian flag looks like a winged dragon. Is this the &quot;Mahdi&quot; ?            What can I say? Cheers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For myself I have had what might be described as full sensory remote viewing. It was more than just seeing and feeling everything. I had become this person and seemed to have full control for a short amount of time. But what I didn&#8217;t have was their memory. I would have to literally look at their  wallet to find out who they were and ask others around me or look for a calendar or mail. If I pulled back a little I could just observe what they were saying or thinking.  I am assuming that events such as the recent death of  Steve Irwin could actually be stopped and avoided and yet it is as if it was fated to happen intentually. (Because this project he was working on for his daughter &amp; his love for her and animals he was even less cautious. )It&#8217;s as if it was a program that couldn&#8217;t be altered. Am I wrong in assuming that our government had originally wanted to control people by remote viewing? To change history and manipulate world events and their enemies? So many things that I had seen seemed to be more of alternate realities or disinformation. I understand that our imaginations can give us false realities especially if during sleep? (remote viewing during sleep)I am also under the impression that in the early 70&#8217;s children were being taught to be remote viewers also. One of which was very successful and was a female. I would also like to mention my visits with Paul Smith at my house during those years as if there was some sort of competition going on. I have not read your books or many of your blogs. The movie Suspect Zero had jogged many memories for me as if I had been sleeping all of these years. The word &#8220;Familiar&#8221; seems to apply to many situations here.  Is the Beast that was and is not and yet is a &#8220;Shape Shifter?&#8221; Or is this a Watcher/Remote Viewer? The Symbol on the Iranian flag looks like a winged dragon. Is this the &#8220;Mahdi&#8221; ?            What can I say? Cheers?</p>
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		<title>By: mike kinch</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>mike kinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,  joe
i am going to the monroe institute on fri , 9/15/06 to talk to them about their mc2 program. do you think that they might have any input? mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,  joe<br />
i am going to the monroe institute on fri , 9/15/06 to talk to them about their mc2 program. do you think that they might have any input? mike</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful post!  I wonder if there is any way we can get some info on the session analysis part of the process.  Seems to me it&#039;s integral but rarely talked about in much detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful post!  I wonder if there is any way we can get some info on the session analysis part of the process.  Seems to me it&#8217;s integral but rarely talked about in much detail.</p>
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		<title>By: 46L353E</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>46L353E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK,  not 10 pages, just one.

There was  a period  about 4  summers ago when I was working particularly hard at getting very acquainted with my mind through frequent meditation. Something peculiar began to occur- suddenly my entire world would take on a sort of GAF ViewMaster kind of depth to it. You surely remember these little toys  with their stereo pictures. You&#039;d look into the ViewMaster and get  a cool 3-D picture of a giraffe or something.

For about ten minutes or so, everything looked this way. Then things would resolve back to &quot;normal&quot;.  This could happen up to several times a day.

I am not asking for your explanation of what was going on, that would not be fair. I DO wonder if anything like this is a part of your experience at any point during your training or of any viewer you may have trained or heard of.

I do not have a clue as to what these episodes mean, but whenever they occur , they are  accompanied by a  sense that I should really pay attention, but to what specifically, I never had much of an idea.

(ALso, I know that training could come with some unpleasant and unexpected effects for some poeple as they got their reality construct modified. As I do not have the benefit of a trainer, any info you could disseminate  on this would be helpful.)


MANY thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,  not 10 pages, just one.</p>
<p>There was  a period  about 4  summers ago when I was working particularly hard at getting very acquainted with my mind through frequent meditation. Something peculiar began to occur- suddenly my entire world would take on a sort of GAF ViewMaster kind of depth to it. You surely remember these little toys  with their stereo pictures. You&#8217;d look into the ViewMaster and get  a cool 3-D picture of a giraffe or something.</p>
<p>For about ten minutes or so, everything looked this way. Then things would resolve back to &#8220;normal&#8221;.  This could happen up to several times a day.</p>
<p>I am not asking for your explanation of what was going on, that would not be fair. I DO wonder if anything like this is a part of your experience at any point during your training or of any viewer you may have trained or heard of.</p>
<p>I do not have a clue as to what these episodes mean, but whenever they occur , they are  accompanied by a  sense that I should really pay attention, but to what specifically, I never had much of an idea.</p>
<p>(ALso, I know that training could come with some unpleasant and unexpected effects for some poeple as they got their reality construct modified. As I do not have the benefit of a trainer, any info you could disseminate  on this would be helpful.)</p>
<p>MANY thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: 46L353E</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>46L353E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,  I really appreciate this post. It addresses a question I had recently posted here. I wanted to just take a second to make it clear that as far as my own question was concerned, I did not ever mean to imply that my &quot;viewing&quot; is limited to visuals only. I was simply asking about the visual aspect of it. I deliberately left out  the emotional, the audio, the olfactory, etc. to help keep my post short and sweet.

Your description of &quot;SENSING&quot; the target makes a great deal of sense to me. It even &quot;feels&quot; right, if you know what I mean. ...not just because this is what I have gotten from your books. These fragmentary episodes that last a second or two are something that I have experienced on several occasions, though not always while attempting to  &quot;view&quot; any particular target. I do get the feeling of actually being there as well as a feeling of excitement, but the instant I try to re-orient myself to get a different taste of the impression, it&#039;s gone and I can never get it back, just a memory of the event, which has a totally different feel to it.

I want to write about 10 more pages, but I&#039;ll stop here instead.  Thank you, very very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,  I really appreciate this post. It addresses a question I had recently posted here. I wanted to just take a second to make it clear that as far as my own question was concerned, I did not ever mean to imply that my &#8220;viewing&#8221; is limited to visuals only. I was simply asking about the visual aspect of it. I deliberately left out  the emotional, the audio, the olfactory, etc. to help keep my post short and sweet.</p>
<p>Your description of &#8220;SENSING&#8221; the target makes a great deal of sense to me. It even &#8220;feels&#8221; right, if you know what I mean. &#8230;not just because this is what I have gotten from your books. These fragmentary episodes that last a second or two are something that I have experienced on several occasions, though not always while attempting to  &#8220;view&#8221; any particular target. I do get the feeling of actually being there as well as a feeling of excitement, but the instant I try to re-orient myself to get a different taste of the impression, it&#8217;s gone and I can never get it back, just a memory of the event, which has a totally different feel to it.</p>
<p>I want to write about 10 more pages, but I&#8217;ll stop here instead.  Thank you, very very much.</p>
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		<title>By: talulah</title>
		<link>http://blog.mceagle.com/44/comment-page-1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>talulah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great post!  I&#039;ve watched people name it and name it--while if I even tried, it&#039;s nowhere near.  I can describe and it does seem like sensing rather than bright visuals but I didn&#039;t think I was getting it.  How would you analyze the session without a tasker?  Using the TKR galleries and doing home tasks, with photos it&#039;s kind of easy to see that it&#039;s a total miss or if you hit some aspects of it.  With other types of tasks, it&#039;s very hard to analyze if you got the tasker&#039;s intent and.or the directive.  That&#039;s one thing I liked about learning remote viewing, it seems more a lesson on how your mind works rather than trying to hit the target.  Well, we all like to be right though about hitting the target :).

Any suggestions on when you&#039;ve hit the end...as in you have &quot;x&quot; amount of talent, you&#039;ve learned to use a fraction of it--that&#039;s as good as it gets.  I just wondered if you had thoughts on that or if you just have to keep practicing to get to the level you want to achieve.

Thanks for your time, hope you guys are doing better,
Talulah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great post!  I&#8217;ve watched people name it and name it&#8211;while if I even tried, it&#8217;s nowhere near.  I can describe and it does seem like sensing rather than bright visuals but I didn&#8217;t think I was getting it.  How would you analyze the session without a tasker?  Using the TKR galleries and doing home tasks, with photos it&#8217;s kind of easy to see that it&#8217;s a total miss or if you hit some aspects of it.  With other types of tasks, it&#8217;s very hard to analyze if you got the tasker&#8217;s intent and.or the directive.  That&#8217;s one thing I liked about learning remote viewing, it seems more a lesson on how your mind works rather than trying to hit the target.  Well, we all like to be right though about hitting the target :).</p>
<p>Any suggestions on when you&#8217;ve hit the end&#8230;as in you have &#8220;x&#8221; amount of talent, you&#8217;ve learned to use a fraction of it&#8211;that&#8217;s as good as it gets.  I just wondered if you had thoughts on that or if you just have to keep practicing to get to the level you want to achieve.</p>
<p>Thanks for your time, hope you guys are doing better,<br />
Talulah</p>
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		<title>By: greeneye</title>
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		<dc:creator>greeneye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that helped me. I&#039;ve been thinking something was wrong because I thought everyone else was seeing images.  I guess they all weren&#039;t after all. 
     The way you describe &quot;Ah ha&quot; moments is closer to the way I ever received information on my (few) good hits. 
     I would usually get lost in the idiograms, ( which I think I remember, are not a thing you do) and get impressions similar to the boat on a placid lake mentioned above. Works for me anyway.
     Thanks.

greeneye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that helped me. I&#8217;ve been thinking something was wrong because I thought everyone else was seeing images.  I guess they all weren&#8217;t after all.<br />
     The way you describe &#8220;Ah ha&#8221; moments is closer to the way I ever received information on my (few) good hits.<br />
     I would usually get lost in the idiograms, ( which I think I remember, are not a thing you do) and get impressions similar to the boat on a placid lake mentioned above. Works for me anyway.<br />
     Thanks.</p>
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