Hi, this is Palyne. Recently, some folks and I were talking on an RV forum about the issue of doing double-blind RV work “in public” — and how much courage it takes when failure in front of everybody is on the line.
Many public demonstrations of Remote Viewing are a bit inaccessible to the viewers who’d most like to see them. Sure it’s mass media, but most people I know either hear about it after the fact, or catch it by chance. Except ironically, those which have the most questionable protocol, which as black humor would have it, may even get re-runs.
I’m really impressed with Joe’s Nippon TV work… now if only I was in Japan so I could see it for myself, that would be great! I bet lots of other RV fans feel the same way. We want to SEE it!
As a result of talking about this with other viewers, I’ve come to realize that many folks have no idea how much work Joe has done on-camera, in-protocol, over the years. They didn’t see it, and you can’t look up a TV show like you do a book (especially if it was in another country), so it’s just “out of sight”.
This doesn’t start on all the viewing he’s done publicly in protocol at in-person presentations, which is a whole other category. And not counting the viewing he does for science, and has since what, 1984 I think. And not counting the the viewing he does constantly as applications work, and has since when… 1977-9 I think. (30 YEARS now! Holy cats!)
But for sure when it comes to “public demonstrations,” he’s been busy “Walking the Talk” for years and for real. In my view, he’s close to being a genuine “Army of One” in that category.
Particularly in terms of ongoing, repeat work — and especially in terms of forcing media (most of which resist fiercely) to hold a proper double-blind protocol. I suppose some of media’s resistance or avoidance is understandable, as a lot of the public-media regarding alleged RV, as well as a lot of the psychic methodology training, does not enforce or even mention the need for the doubleblind. If even people in the RV field itself carefully avoid it, I suppose it’s unfair to expect media to take it seriously, especially when they have good reason for feeling “a need for control” in the on-camera situation.
Joe’s adamant insistence on proper protocol in his media over the years is unique in my observation; the occasional media people I sometimes talk to, about shows they are doing or have done, confirm this. And still, despite his offering education, often a scientist to consult with, etc., a good number of his successes over the years have ended up happening despite some unbelievably stupid issues related to problems in tasking and feedback. Nothing that invalidates the doubleblind, but definitely things that most other viewers would be offering as fairly legit reasons for session problems . . . not succeeding in spite of them.
So I asked Joe if he’d outline numbers for the “on-camera public” demonstrations he’s done. I just wanted something to reference in conversation. But it was a bunch of info he returned, so I thought since he hadn’t posted on his blog in awhile, folks who read his blog might appreciate seeing this too.
By the way: he and Nancy (Scooter) are doing fine. They recently had their first non-working ‘vacation’ in many years. They’re still ridiculously busy, as always, and wish they could blog-by-telepathy so it’d get done more. ;-) — P
(from Joe:)
I’ve done 138 double-blind demos on National level television in nine countries. I’ve been successful in 109 of those cases. Twenty-three of those cases have been abject failures, and six were turned over to police departments because they resulted in criminal actions and their results to date are unknown.
Thirty-two of those cases have been searches for missing people where they’ve put the persons name and birth date only in a sealed envelope. Of those missing person cases [which are known to be the most difficult cases
in remote viewing], I’ve located the missing person, either living or dead, missing from seven to sixty-one years fifteen times for a success rate of 46.9%.
Understand these are subjective cases as evaluated by audiences and studios, but when comparisons are made of actual locations post hoc to my detailed drawings, it’s pretty conclusive. Most of my viewings usually involve a minimum of at least eight hours of viewing and at least “16 to 25 sheets” of detailed drawings of the target locations, of which less than 20% of the data provided is obviously erroneous. The data is easily recognizable to the average person on the street and does not require extensive analysis by experts (in other words, it’s picture-graphic). In almost all cases I do the RV’s on my dining room table no matter where in the world the target might happen to be, when it might have occurred (year, month, time or date.)
I’m always double-blind to the target. I never have a monitor. No one ever asks me questions when I do the remote viewing. I’m only asked questions about my viewing when it’s terminated, and then I only allow questions to be asked in reference to what I’ve provided. If anyone ever gives me any information, I terminate the RV and walk away, even while being filmed.
Hope that answers whatever question about filmed RV’s might be asked.
I’ve worked live in: Germany, Holland, Japan, Hungary, Russia, America, United Kingdom, Austria, and Sweden. I’ve done most of my work in Japan, America, and the United Kingdom.
– Joe
Public ‘walking the talk’ is a big deal for RV. And since I’ve come to distrust media’s RV protocol the more I know about it, public RV that I feel sure IS done in protocol, since Joe is famous (or infamous, haha) for insisting, is invaluable.
Of course, not all viewers have 30 years of experience, a military background, scientists who respect them, and TV cameras following them around. I remember in the old days on the www — dating back a dozen years now — viewers used to complain that they had no way to prove themselves, since they didn’t have an intell unit, a science lab, or a TV camera nearby. How will “the next generation” demonstrate itself, they asked? How can a viewer demonstrate skill in a way to be allowed to address applications? Most viewers don’t have a resume like STAR GATE. Some way of showing their stuff could function as a resume. How could it be done?
In part to serve that need, now there are resources there didn’t used to be. Online. Anonymous if you choose. Free, even. Like the Ten Thousand Roads Remote Viewing and Dowsing Project, in particular the TKR at the Dojo Psi area. The dojo allows an easy way for viewers to practice (automated practice pool), to view together (weekly tasker-created targets that are done by many), interact with other viewers (talk to the viewers on any session), manage your own target pool (software help so you can do your own taskings or ‘mix’ task sources), and there’s even tools for viewing and tasking outside the project as well. But given it forces a doubleblind, one of its most useful purposes is to allow viewers to “show their stuff” for others in protocol.
I think those of you into RV will like the dojo’s tools. Check it out: register or log in, click on the purple ‘RV Galleries’, and then the link ‘Locals Faves’, to see some pretty good viewing. (Usually. Sometimes, why a session gets voted there is beyond me! But many of the sessions there are really good. Consistency is a serious issue — are you surprised? — but everybody’s learning, and you can watch people appear to improve over time, which is very encouraging.)
The dojo tools do get used, and some viewers can really knock yer socks off now and again. Yet oddly, despite that probably 80+% of the online RV field as I encounter it is ‘methods trained’, almost none of them will view in the only online place that enforces the doubleblind and shows your stuff to the public. A few others donate sessions to the Window Gallery (where you can post sessions done elsewhere), but getting practice and missions done in a formal methodological format is like pulling teeth.
This was the ‘big chance to prove it’. Instead of pouring in to show their stuff, everybody “talkin’ the talk” just scattered. There’s maybe half a dozen viewers who happen to use one of the popular methodologies (CRV, TRV, SRV, etc.) methods ‘openly’, hanging out with the other viewers. Probably a dozen who do but only post summaries, so it isn’t evident how they go about it. But there are count-them-zero “experts” (the ones selling RV expertise or claiming it loudly in media, on the radio, or on the internet) to be seen. Not only that, but despite allegedly growing on a quarter million people trained in some ‘variant’ of the methods mentioned, there’s also zero publicly-acknowledged graduate-viewers of-experts to be seen.
Now it’s not like people need to use that website — who cares. It’s not about “that” option, it’s about what needs to be done somewhere that is an option. I think it’d be nice, given the number of people claiming skill at viewing, if we saw a few more of those people in a provable public protocol somewhere. Anywhere. That’s free, anonymous to start, allows privacy on practice, and is accessible to everyone, so it just sounds like a good alternative if someone either can’t, or won’t, “view on TV.” Why should Joe have to carry nearly the entire evidential weight of this field on his shoulders?
Joe has showed more of this double-blind, in-protocol, live-demo courage, and in really BIG venues such as national television in many countries, than everybody else publicly ‘in the RV field’ combined and then doubled.
Many of the folks who read this blog probably already know that. But I thought it was worth saying out loud. I think his viewing is worth waxing on about a bit, and this is (after all) his blog, so what better place? He won’t wax on about himself, so I’m going to do it, since once in awhile I think somebody should. ;-)
– Palyne
P.S.: I closed comments on this post, since this is not my blog. To prevent my embarrassing him by waxing on about him any further, maybe this will inspire him to use his own blog a little more often, so I don’t have to. ;-)
